Stock Options Stop Loss

Member E-mail Question:

Hi Chris,

Thanks for your post on Options, I was kinda wanting more info on Options from MSW as that’s all I trade nowadays. I had a quick question.

I mostly do spreads when I trade options, though I do straight calls as well. But I was wondering, do you use the same stop loss techniques with Options that you do with stocks? And if so, what percentage do you set the stop at? It’s a little tricky to set stop losses on Spreads but I wanted to protect the gains in my calls and since options move in large percentages, I was wondering what a good percentage would be good to use for a physical trailing stop loss on a straight Call?

Thanks!

-MSW Member

My Answer:

Thank you for enjoying the options post. As you may have heard me say in the past, I am not an options expert and I have not sustained profitable options trades over several years as I am still learning and looking for a system that works for me. This system may be the $60-$100 run.

I do not use the same stop loss techniques that I use for regular stock purchases. I give my options more room to run. If an option I own starts to fall rapidly, I sell and I have an automatic “no questions asked” sell rule if the option premium drops by half. As the option starts to show a profit, I will look to the charts for a support area for the actual price and determine what level I will use as a stop loss for the option.
Because my money is leveraged and I am not risking as many dollars on an options trade, I widen my stop loss. If you are using short term options strategies, I think stop loss protection is not very helpful due to the nature of the risk and volatility of the trade.

I can’t go into detail with my methods because they aren’t proven to this point. I have made money and I have lost money using options. Until I can consistently make money every year using options, I don’t feel comfortable teaching any methods but I do hope this helps a bit.

Chris



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  • 2 Comments so far

    1. BPART on October 27th, 2008

      Hi Chris,

      I have just entered a position

      Sell to open —-> 1 contract —> FJJWT (FXI Nov 20 Put) —-> at premium of $2.50

      Therefore I am short a put ITM option.

      Am I right to state that my maximum loss for this trade is (20 price per share * 100 shares ) = $2000 – $250 ( premium I have just received).
      The maximum loss for each contract is $1750.

      The reason I entered into this position because I am willing to buy this stock for $20 and will hold to it if this option is exercised by the put buyer.

      In all my past option experience, I am always long the call and put. I have never short a call or put. This is my first experience.

      Can you please advise if I understated my risk for this trade? Thanks.

    2. elanus on June 2nd, 2009

      Since this comment hasn’t been answered and someone else may be interested, BPART has no maximum loss as a result of this trade. In fact, he has a profit of $250, and may or may not end up having the stock put to him at $20, an outlay on his part of $2000 if his sold put is exercised. So he will either have $250 and no stock or $250 in cash plus he will own stock for which he will have to pay $2000. So no loss.

      He does, however, have a risk (not a loss). The risk is that the stock for which he paid $20 may fall in price, technically to zero. It will certainly be worth less than the $20 that he will have to pay for it if his sold put is exercised against him. However much it is below $20 will be compensated a little by the $250 cash that he received.

      It’s up to him whether he takes a loss by selling it at a lower price, or holds it for a return to a price above $20, or perhaps sells calls against the stock to gain some more income.

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